Government Needs To Leave Big Tech Alone (Transcript)

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So, folks, moving on to the Survivalist podcast. I want to talk today.

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Like I said, I don’t generally talk a lot of politics on the show.

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But I do want to talk about Facebook today because Facebook, I got a couple people tweeting me about Facebook, some of that.

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But a couple people tweeted me about what’s going on.

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Facebook appearing in front of Congress and all that.

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And really, they appeared last year, too.

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And they’re really in an interesting situation here, folks, as far as they’re trying to explain to Congress and the Senate how basically Facebook and the Internet works.

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And I hate to say this, but most of these people are, I don’t take this the wrong way, but it’s a thing.

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But most of these people are in their late 60s, 70s and some of them in their 80s.

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And they just do not understand how the Internet and technology works.

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And these are the people that are creating the laws and the people that are trying to talk about regulating the Internet.

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And again, my views on it is always, you guys know, I have a lot of kind of libertarian views of live and let live.

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Let the government kind of keep their hands out of what’s going on and kind of let us do our own thing.

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Let us decide what to regulate, what not to regulate.

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Let the people decide, well, why does the government stick their hands in everything?

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You know, that’s kind of my view on everything.

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I don’t particularly care about the government sticking their hands in everything because everything they stick their hands in always ends up turning into a mess.

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That’s just the way it is. But what I want to talk about here, though, is that these people that are going to,

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that are asked, talking to Facebook and that are trying, that want to make up these laws and all this crap.

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And I’m like, you know, these people are asking questions and they’re the most basic of questions that probably even my wife,

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who’s not a very tech savvy person, like, you know, but she’s, you know, the typical person.

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She can get her way around a phone and a computer and all that.

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And maybe she’s not as technical advanced as me. Somebody who’s, I mean, I’ve done IT work probably my entire career.

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But, you know, but even my daughter, like these are basic, simple questions that they cannot, that these senators and Republicans,

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you can tell they don’t understand. You know, the prime example, you know, somebody asked Facebook,

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and this just shows you how little they know about the platform.

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They asked Facebook, we don’t understand. You have to be selling data because there’s no way that, I mean,

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a business model, how do you survive on giving something away for free?

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And I’m like, well, and Mark H├╝ngberg immediately is like, well, we run ads.

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And the guy’s like, well, there’s ads on Facebook. I mean, that just shows you how little they know.

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And the one person that was on, you know, he’s talking about how I use my Android all the time.

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He holds up the phone. And it’s not. It’s an iPhone.

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I mean, you could tell these people that are going to be dealing with writing legislation have no idea what they’re talking about.

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And this is the whole problem with the people, with people that are running our country that do not understand what they’re doing.

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They don’t know what I mean. I mean, in order for you to write a law about something, you need to understand it.

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And you cannot write a proper law if you do not understand the platform.

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They don’t understand Facebook. They don’t understand Google. They don’t understand how really how the Internet works.

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They know what’s on their phone. And that’s it.

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That’s how they’re, you know, you need people like myself who understand technology in depth because it’s our field, our industry.

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You know, you need people like, you know, like people maybe, you know, my whole issue with this is the people that are making the laws that are going to affect our lives.

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And it’s not going to affect them because they’re going to retire in a few years.

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And they’re just going to use Facebook here. It’s going to affect, these laws are going to affect me. They’re going to affect my children.

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They’re going to affect, they’re going to affect free speech to a certain degree because they’re going to, you know, let’s put it this way.

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Facebook is in the industry of they make money on ads.

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They need to keep you on their platform as long as they can so they can maximize their clicks.

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OK. By the way, not knocking it. OK. Facebook’s a great tool, great platform.

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But but that’s the business they’re in. OK, now.

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It is not it is shown from I’ve actually I’ve actually talked to people like Rob Malz on people like that who have who built who they’re basically the whole the whole career was building stuff like Slashdot4chan communities way before forums,

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way before Facebook and Twitter and all that. But anyway, he had said that one of the toughest things about Facebook is their business.

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They have to make money. Therefore, they have to maximize your time on the platform.

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OK. To maximize your time, the more you’re on the platform, the more they have a chance of you clicking on an ad and then making money.

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That’s the business they’re in. OK. Problem with that is, OK, is the easiest way to keep you on a platform is to show you the stuff that you want to see.

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That is just the way it is, folks. And I’m not I’m not knocking the platform.

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I’m not like I said, I’m not trying to argue about it. I know some people love Facebook and there’s not I mean, especially a lot of believe it or not, the younger generation to move away from Facebook.

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Actually, this is I’ve actually got statistics on this and tons of numbers on this. They are actually moving away.

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And they’re finding that younger people are gravitating more towards Snapchat now.

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And people and that’s the younger generation, my daughter’s generation, the kids, you know, 21 and younger.

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They’re finding that the 21 and older crowd to be the 40s or so are on Instagram.

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And they’re finding the old people now, the older people, the older generation are on.

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I don’t mean old people, by the way. I shouldn’t have said that. I didn’t mean it that way. But anyway, the older people are on Facebook.

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OK, because it’s simple. It’s easier. I’m not knocking anybody that’s older. I’m just saying that’s just that’s just the statistics.

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I dare you to find anybody in the 70s on Snapchat. OK. But my point is, though, OK, prime example is.

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So Facebook has to maximize their time on the platform so they can make money.

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Facebook is a business. No matter why you think about it, they’re a business. They’re there to make money.

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That’s what they’re there for. They need to make money. They need to make they need to make revenue.

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OK. It is not good business to show people something they don’t want to see because if they see stuff they don’t want to see, eventually they’re going to get off the platform.

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If you show them if somebody’s a Democrat and you show them an ad for something that’s anti-democratic, they’re going to get off the platform.

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They’re not going to stay on. They’re not going to read it. They want you on. The only way to keep you on there is to show you what you want to see.

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OK. They tailor every single Facebook feed to the user that’s using it at that time.

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And there’s nothing wrong with that. But the problem with that is when you have a business that tailors show is showing you only showing you what you want to see.

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OK. Here’s the issue with that. You’re not seeing the other side of things.

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So all these people that get only get their news on Facebook. OK. And there’s a lot of them, maybe not the older people, but the younger generation.

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That’s the only place they get their news is Facebook. And that’s it. And that’s a serious problem.

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OK. Because Facebook only shows you what you want to see. It doesn’t show you both sides of anything or nothing.

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They basically tailor the news. They show you tailor the information, tailor the data, tailor the pictures they show you.

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So to maximize your time on the platform when they do that, you’re only ever seeing one side of things.

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You’re not seeing both. So people that only go on Facebook to find their news are only ever going to see.

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And you know who else is guilty of this? Google. Google’s another one that Google has said many times.

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We tailor your news feed to you. Well, Google is the same business.

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Believe it or not, folks, Google is in the same business that Facebook is in.

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They’re in the ad business. That’s where Google makes like 85 percent of their revenue.

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If you don’t believe me, read the revenue report, because that’s the truth. They make 85 percent of their revenue on ads.

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OK. So, well, that’s that’s the problem, because they need to maximize their click through rate.

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They need to maximize how much are on the platform.

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The only way to do that is to show you the data and the information and all that stuff that you want to see.

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There is no money in showing you something you don’t want to see. I mean, I hate to say it, but that’s true,

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because when people see stuff they don’t want to see, they go they turn they either they get off the platform or they go someplace else to find what they want to see.

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Like that’s the issue. OK, it’s the same reason. And by the way, people say all the time that this is a new concept.

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No, it’s not. They can tell you this right now. There’s a reason why The New York Times always slants in one direction.

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There’s a reason why The New York Post slants in one direction, because they want to maximize their time that the readers read and look through the paper so that they see the ads that their advertisers are running.

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OK, it’s not a new concept. I just want to point this out.

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And if you notice, we get a little passionate about this because I really get upset when I hear people say all the time to me, oh, I get all my news on Facebook or I get all my news on Google.

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Yeah, you realize those news feeds are tailored to you. You know, oh, I only ever see anti Trump stuff or oh, I only see anti Democrat stuff.

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Yeah, there’s a reason for that, because they’re purposely purposely showing you that content.

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That’s why. So to me, it’s being well to me. I just I want people to be I want people to be well informed on this stuff because it’s a big issue.

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Mark Zuckerberg, who was just in front of the other day, actually was interesting. Mark Zuckerberg, who was the owner of Facebook, by the way, if you didn’t know that, was actually in front of Congress.

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And one of the Congress people actually had an interesting question. It kind of shows you how Facebook kind of works.

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So Facebook is recently since they’ve been under so much scrutiny, has been trying to, I don’t say cater news to you, but they’re trying to keep stuff that can be it can be different, detrimental to people the way from them to trying anyway.

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But so they Facebook, you know, and I’m not thinking either. I mean, I am I’m not going to lie. I am pro vaccination. I think everybody should be vaccinated.

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And I think that, you know, people that don’t vaccinate their kids. I’ve had a lot of friends that didn’t vaccinate and their kids got very sick and almost died.

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So I am very pro vaccination. I know a lot of people are anti vaccine, but there’s nothing wrong with that. That’s your decision.

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If you don’t want to do this, fine. My daughter will be vaccinated. She’ll be safe. But if your kids aren’t vaccinated, they catch something from another kid.

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I mean, that’s, you know, that’s completely, by the way, up to you. OK, that is your decision. That’s a decision that needs to be made by you.

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I am nor I am for vaccinating my children. Some people are not.

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And if you know, if every kid around you is vaccinated, you’re the only kid not vaccinated. You probably won’t catch anything.

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But again, that is a personal choice that you need to make as a parent. I would never knock anybody for making the decision that they make as a parent.

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So but I will say this, though, Facebook has and this is one reason I want to bring something that does listen is anti vaccine is really important to hear this.

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Facebook has purposely said we think people should be vaccinated. So we purposely it marks.

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He said this. I see if I can if I can find the link to it, I will include it in the show notes. I’m really running out of schedule today, but I will try to remember to put this up there.

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You find it. It’s right on YouTube. One of the Vax people that I have actually they actually pointed it out to me because they thought it was important for me to know it for the show.

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And he actually said, we believe people should get vaccines. So we purposely if you type in vaccination group or anything to vaccination, we purposely don’t show the anti Vax groups.

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If you type them in like you type the whole thing in, you know, anti you know, if you type in the name of the group specifically and hit enter in the search box, you’ll see it.

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If you if you if you search for you, you know, if you’re trying if you try to find it, you’ll find it.

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But if you’re just a casual person, let me see if there’s any anti Vax groups that I can join.

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You type that in unless you type in the exact name of the group or unless you have a friend that invites you to the group, you’re not going to find it.

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And Google and Facebook actually said the other day that we purposely do that because we think it’s important for people not to get bad health information.

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So while I’m not saying, you know, that I’m well, I’m not I think everybody has the right to get the education that they want.

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And I don’t think it’s Facebook’s place to start regulating certain things because it is people’s personal choice.

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And once you start letting Facebook regulate what you see, it starts shaking away that whole to my opinion, starts infringing a little bit on free speech and the right to information.

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Your First Amendment right. That’s just my opinion. I don’t need Facebook telling what I can and cannot look at.

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There’s a rating system on Facebook for a reason. If I’m scrolling through my feed, if somebody from the site or somebody sent something on my on my on my wall that I don’t want to see or somebody post on my.

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I’ll just click the little little carrot to top right hand of the post, just say click and say, please don’t show me anymore or don’t want to see things like this.

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That’s my choice. OK, that’s my choice. I made the decision not to see that Facebook should give me all the all the information and then I should have to filter it.

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But the problem is when they do that. Right. Like I said, they don’t want you to see stuff you don’t want to see because they want you to stay on the platform as long as you can.

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That’s kind of the problem. The fact that they’re trying to like like Facebook said, we’ve been trying to make sure people don’t get misleading information.

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And they specifically, specifically brought up the fact of the vaccinations and said that we purposely make it so people can’t find active anti vaccination because we believe that it’s unhealthy people not to be vaccinated.

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While while I understand that maybe it maybe it is healthier, that’s people’s choice. It should make it harder for people to find this stuff.

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So that’s kind of my whole problem with that. And kind of when I really saw this stuff last couple of Congress, I started really looking back in the summer, kind of a whole rabbit hole today with all this Facebook stuff and and all this stuff.

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And I really I know it gets into being a touchy subject of, you know, do I want to see this? Don’t I want to see this? But the truth of the matter is, is you have a right to see this stuff.

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You have a right to make to have all the information before you make an informed decision that’s going to affect somebody’s life, especially something like a vaccine is going to affect them for their entire lives.

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You know, that’s a big problem. And I think we as a country need to start really looking at not I’m not saying look at both sides of it because I don’t want to say look at both sides of it because everybody has different views on it.

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But I think we I think when you’re going to make a decision, you need to make an informed decision. And the only way to make an informed decision is to have information that goes both ways, pro and not pro.

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So and that’s important. And you should have and Facebook should not be making their their platform, which people do use to find information harder for people.

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I don’t think that’s right. And that’s what. But I do believe that people that just say, well, I only get my stuff on Facebook, my news on Facebook, they’re not really, really well.

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And I don’t feel that they’re being well informed because they’re only getting what they want to see. They’re not getting the other side of it because we all know, especially in the world of media and big, big media like I’m not talking about us.

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We’re not big media. But OK. But I mean, you’re talking about we talk about the big news companies, Fox, CNN, MSNBC.

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The list just goes on and on and on and on of news channels. OK.

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They all slant in different directions. It’s important for people to see both sides of any story so that they can make their own informed decision.

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Well, informed decision, I should say. And I just think that, you know, we really people need to really not not so much.

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I think people need to read the news, read both sides in the news and then do some more research and then make a decision before they do anything, because we all know that.

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You know, and and I want to point out folks to you and I want to point out and I bring up the newspaper before, but I like to bring this up as well, showing people on what they want to see.

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And this is the same. And by the way, I am not I don’t care what news station you want.

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I rather somebody watch the news and at least be informed rather than people that say, I never watch news.

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I don’t know what’s going on in the world. I don’t like that. But there’s a reason why Fox only shows certain news.

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There’s a reason why CNN shows or tailors certain news. There’s a reason why Fox tailors certain news, because the truth is they make money on what advertising.

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So they need you to stay watching it. They want you know, what happens is I don’t know if you guys know how advertising works.

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Especially on television. They’ll actually ask you how many viewers you have.

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Then they ask you how long do your viewers how long do your viewers view in how all that’s important to getting advertising.

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So CNN, Fox, MSNBC, I’m pointing out those for a couple of them. They purposely Bloomberg, whatever, purposely tailor the news so that the people watching it get.

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I mean, what they want. I mean, that’s what if you turn into CNN, there’s a reason they’re only going to show you one side of the story, because that’s the side of the story that they can tell it to that to their viewers are they want the viewers to sit there and watch as long as possible.

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Okay. And that’s what Facebook is doing isn’t really a new isn’t really a new thing.

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And that’s the other reason to why I don’t. But I do think that I think this is the other reason is I think the other reason why Congress is so freaking out about it, because, you know, Facebook and Google is there.

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They’re modern days, places where everybody’s getting their news and, you know, the government, Republican or Democrat can’t can’t control them because Facebook is going to do what they want.

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Their platform. Google is going to do what they want their platform. They have no control over it. And they don’t like that.

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They, you know, you know, they’ve all you know, the the big government wants to control the narrative. They want to control what people see what people hear the news they get because they were in a one thing, folks, votes and reelection.

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Okay. And they want to control the narrative and they can’t control the narrative on Facebook. They can’t control the narrative on Google because they don’t own.

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So, and they’re not bought and paid for so that that’s another problem. And that’s one of the reasons why Congress is sticking their nose and stuff and wanting to excuse me, and wanting to regulate all this stuff because they want to regulate it because, you know, and they say they can say it’s for the children.

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Right. It’s for this for that. But the truth is, folks, they want to control it because they want to control the narrative. They want to pay Facebook to you know, they want to regulate it. They want to regulate the Internet now.

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And I don’t believe in that either. Why regulate the Internet? Let the Internet be free. You know, it’s never been regulated. Why does it have to be regulated? Why is the government have to stick their nose in it?

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Okay, and mess up a good thing. I mean, that’s the whole issue and they want to, you know, it’s something that the government doesn’t understand. They can’t control it and they want to put their fingers in it.

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So leave this stuff alone. I mean, they’re, you know, if all those people are informed about how this stuff works, it’ll work.

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I don’t understand why the government always has to stick their paws in everything and want to touch everything. And well, I know why they want to do it, but I don’t like it.

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So but do folks today, folks, is a little bit different show. You know, I just wanted to bring this up because it’s a really important topic.

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It’s really important information. And I think people really need to understand how services like this and all work and how the news media works and how all this stuff really works.

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Because it’s important because it’s how we get our information on the people that we elect as our leaders. And while I think I said, I do believe at times that the government, you know, you know, I mean, I do.

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I said, I do think we need, you know, a form of I don’t say need a form of.

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We we need some form of structure to run the country. But at times it shouldn’t. You know, the way they do it in Washington is, you know, they want they want to control everything and they want to control the votes.

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They it’s all about their reelection campaign. If you think it’s all about being reelected to the seat, that’s what they care about.

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I mean, that’s just the way it is. So, I mean, and, you know, it’s I mean, they’re supposed to be working for the people.

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And, you know, are they I don’t think they are at times. But, folks, like I said, it’s going to be a little bit of a shorter show today because, like I said, I am kind of running a little crazy today.

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But I want to thank everybody for listening and we will talk to you on the next episode.

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Thank you very much.