Rescue from Whakaari / Wikileaks Documentary (Transcript)

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cuts easily, safely, hasn’t snicked my nose or anything like that.

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It’s a proper percentage of any of the purchases you guys do. So we appreciate that.

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So folks, I’m on my mobile rig here today.

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Like I said, I think I brought this up to you last time.

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It’s a little DR05X that I got from TazCom.

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Let me tell you folks, if you are ever interested in starting a podcast for like $100,

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you can get this with the sound card. It’s like a cheap way to get you into podcasting.

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Or even if you want to record any interviews or record.

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I know my friend of mine, the reason why I bring this up, a friend of mine just got one of these.

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And I said, “Oh, you’re getting into podcasting?” And I guess his son bought one so he could record his lectures at college and stuff like that.

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So a really neat little device. I know a couple of musicians as well that use it to record little things that they are working on.

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Stuff like that. It’s a cheap way to get you into a good recorder.

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It does sound better than the recorder sounds better, I think, than using your Apple device or anything like that.

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So a couple of things folks. Happy New Year’s. Happy Merry Christmas. Happy New Year’s.

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I took a couple of weeks off. Happy Christmas and New Year’s. We’ve got a lot going on.

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As you guys know, I do have rental properties and we have some repairs and a lot of that kind of stuff going on right now.

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Just because people move out for the new year, people move in. Before people can move in, we’ve got some repairs to do.

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So my wife and I have been kind of working on that and also my maintenance guy has been helping me out with that.

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So we’ve got a lot going on with that stuff.

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So it did take some time off between Christmas and New Year’s because we were working on the rentals and doing all that kind of stuff.

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If anybody has any New Year’s resolutions, feel free to go ahead and let me know what they are. I’m really curious.

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I know everybody. My mother-in-law, I know she doesn’t listen, but if she does, she said she was going to quit smoking.

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It’s the third day of January and this is being recorded and I know she already smoked a cigarette already.

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So if your New Year’s resolutions, try to make them obtainable. I know it’s not easy to quit smoking.

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It’s definitely not easy to lose weight. I know that.

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It’s one of those things where resolutions are great, but if you’re not going to make it, then why bother?

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One of the things too about the New Year, obviously today, I’m not going to talk a ton of politics today because there’s not really much going on as far as that stuff goes.

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Right now, the House is stuck in this deadlock right now as I’m recording this.

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You need 218 votes to be majority speaker and the Republicans just couldn’t get it done, so they’re going to have to have another ballot.

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I think at 2 o’clock they were going to vote again, but I don’t think it passed.

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But it’s historic. First time in 100 years they’re going to have to have more than one ballot to be able to pick the speaker.

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Regardless of Republican or Democrat.

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So I’m watching that right now. I don’t really care to be honest with you who wins it.

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Pelosi’s obviously stepped down and she had a pretty long run, but now we’ll probably have a Republican for a while.

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It’s one of those things where it’s unbelievable.

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They stuck together so well during the Trump administration and all that stuff, and now everybody’s fighting and all that.

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The party is split again like it was in the 90s. It’s just one of those things where nothing can be done.

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They can’t do any bills or any kind of work until they pick a speaker.

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So now we’ll be stuck with this for a while. Maybe a couple of days.

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Maybe they get it done by the end of the day. I don’t know. At least a day or two.

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It kind of stinks, our tax money that’s being wasted with these people that just can’t make decisions.

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Again, we’re in a world right now, at least in America, where the system just doesn’t work.

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It’s quite unfortunate because it’s the only people that are suffering are you and me.

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That’s why we do our best to try to be more prepared and try to grunt through it.

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Speaking of that, a couple of things since I was off over the break and I wasn’t podcasting, I did do a little bit of gaming.

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I hope you guys got on with me. I do play PUBG quite a bit.

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I like a lot of those Army games. I do play Call of Duty a little bit.

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A couple of you guys had messaged me on our social media platform,

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Like I said, join up there. It’s free. It doesn’t cost you anything.

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You get to interact with a lot of us there. It’s a lot of fun. We’re a good group.

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A lot of you guys were interacting with me on there. We got on and we were playing PUBG and stuff like that.

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I did do a little gaming, but over the break, my wife and I got to really take in some Netflix content we’ve been wanting to watch.

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I watched that WikiLeaks documentary, which I knew I kind of lived through it,

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but I hadn’t really gotten really into the nuts and bolts of what happened with that.

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Kind of really ridiculous the way everything happened with that.

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Julian Assange had, you know, I’m not saying he’s definitely not a saint,

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but a lot of what he did and a lot of what he went through really was, you know,

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when WikiLeaks released all those documents about the war and stuff like that,

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what he actually had to endure was a little bit ridiculous.

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You know what I mean? Yes, WikiLeaks is the one that leaked it,

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but I mean, the New York Times and The Guardian and a bunch of other news publications were right along with him doing that stuff.

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And I don’t understand why WikiLeaks ate the brunt of that.

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Maybe it’s because they’re the ones that leaked it.

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But that whole thing with Bradley Manning, I just I don’t understand why WikiLeaks really got the tail end of that.

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When you really think about it, they were New York Times and all those other people were just as guilty as WikiLeaks

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because they published it and they went through all that stuff and all that.

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And then obviously there was, you know, some redacting that had to happen.

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I know WikiLeaks did some didn’t redact some stuff that should have been redacted.

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I know they had stuff that they weren’t prepared to deal with as a small company or small whatever you want to call them.

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But, you know, it’s just I don’t understand why they got the brunt of it.

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And I do believe and a lot of people think that, oh, they leaked classified information.

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But if they didn’t leak it and if Snowden didn’t leak what he leaked, we wouldn’t know what we know now.

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Knowing that, you know, the Americans and stuff like that were going into the Geneva Convention with some of the stuff they were doing,

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the way America was just handling the war very poorly, the finances, how much America was getting ripped off by these outside companies.

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And there was just so much that got released that us as Americans didn’t know was going on.

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And it was a shame. I mean, war is never a good thing, but it’s unbelievable to find out what actually when you actually see what was going on behind the scenes.

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You know, it really is quite a shame. And they really dig deep into the cables and into all the stuff that WikiLeaks released about the Afghan and the Iraq war.

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And it just really was unbelievable what was going on. And politicians had absolutely you know, they just didn’t have to be, you know, they didn’t get chastised for it.

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They didn’t, you know, they didn’t have to, I mean, nothing. It was just they get to do they have to do what they want.

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They were like unchecked power at that time because everything happened. And it just was a real shame when you’re when you really watch the whole series.

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It’s called We Steal Secrets by WikiLeaks. It’s well over two and a half hours long.

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But I think if you’re anybody that’s like me that wants to kind of see, you know, kind of see behind the scenes, it was a really great documentary.

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And I really recommend watching it. Obviously Assange still sitting in prison waiting to be extradited.

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He actually I don’t know if he ever will. He might just sit in prison for the rest of his life.

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I don’t know. There’s just so much going on with that. And, you know, and if he does get extradited to the U.S., who knows what’s going to happen.

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He may not make it to trial with everything he knows. I don’t know. We’ll have to see what happens.

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I did watch it. Like I said, it’s on Netflix. It’s worth watching, especially when you know behind the scenes what kind of happened with it and how WikiLeaks actually kind of came up and what they actually did.

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And I guess I’ve I mean, I think I mean, yes, they released confidential information, but in a way, too, I think if they didn’t, we wouldn’t have known.

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We always do the gun was corrupt, but we really knew. I mean, it’s just like anything that released, even the was it to the 80s when they released the all that stuff about the war that happened over in in Korea.

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I kind of stuck. It was Korea and Vietnam. They both think it was I know it was Vietnam. It was Korea as well.

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So all that stuff and you know, it’s just one of those things where I think America needs to know it’s our tax money. These are people that we vote in.

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They’re supposed to be working for us. And I think that while yes, it’s dangerous to release confidential information and redacting does need to happen or information that could hurt somebody does need to be redacted.

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I think it’s good for the government. I think it’s good for the people to know what exactly is going on with their government. Sorry about that. My phone was was ringing.

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But, you know, like I said, it’s a good documentary. Watch it. If you have time, it’s about two hours. But it does really give you a lot of information.

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And they really go into the documents and what’s going on. And and one of the things I didn’t realize is somebody who is a you know, is a content creator, but I’ve never created anything like that.

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But interesting part about this, they had said that WikiLeaks first started doing their leaks.

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One of the things they had a problem with was they would dump these 10,000 pages all before the Afghanistan stuff when they were doing the early leaks in Europe.

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And one of the things that WikiLeaks was finding was that you couldn’t just and one of the reasons why they partnered with The Guardian and New York Times and a handful of other news organizations was because what they found was that just dumping information on a website.

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Even though it’s confidential stuff and people will want to read it, either a people don’t understand all the legal jargon or they don’t people aren’t going to sit there and, you know, you know, skim skim through 10,000 files, you know.

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So that’s one of the reasons why WikiLeaks teamed up with The Guardian, The New York Times and all that was because, you know, they found out that you really in order to release that stuff, you need experienced journalists to guide people through this stuff, because a lot of it is very, you know, technical, very legal jargon.

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And sometimes the people that just that it’s very difficult for people to, you know, sometimes I can stay read all 10,000 documents or all 11,000 documents you need, you know, journalists to summarize it in, you know, in maybe 8, 15 pages.

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You know, or, you know, or as it just goes up there and nobody’s ever going to read it or there’s a small group will, but they might not read the whole thing. It’s just very dangerous. So somebody to have journalists summarize it and say, okay, well, if you want to read more about this, you know, click here, go here or, you know, check out this or, you know, and really cite stuff and kind of like write a report because it’s just it’s too much information for for a lot of people to sit and have to read.

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Where a journalist has, you know, all day to do it and it’s their job to make sure that it’s done properly. So it was a really interesting documentary. Like I said, I really recommend you watching it.

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Also, over the break, a couple of things I wanted to bring up. Obviously, the legendary Barbara Walters passed away 90, I think it was 90, 90 some odd years old.

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She had a wonderful career in broadcasting. She interviewed the who’s who of anybody. And it’s just kind of sad to see her go. For those of you that are wrestling fans, Don West, the legendary announcer Don West passed away.

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He was a legend in wrestling, legend in radio, podcasting, passed away. He had lymphoma of the brain and unfortunately he just didn’t make it. It’s very tough.

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He passed away over the break. Quite a few people passed away over the break. There was him and there was somebody else that passed away.

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Unfortunately, their name escapes me, but there’s somebody else that passed away over the break. But those are the two big ones that I remember.

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And, you know, it’s like I said, you know, any time, you know, this time of year happens, you always hear about this. Sometimes the families, you know, release it.

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And, you know, Barbara’s family released it. I know if you’re actually interested, folks in Barbara Walters at all, I don’t know if any of you are, but if you do and you have, well, you have YouTube, you can find it on there.

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But if you have Sirius XM, Howard Stern did a whole in-depth interview with Barbara a couple of years ago.

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I think about her book that she had came out with talking about her, she had a sister who I guess had mental illness and then she had kind of a tough upbringing and all that.

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I mean, she really went into depth and he started a great, I think, almost two hour interview with her.

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And I listened to it the other day. You can find that on YouTube. If not, you can find the whole thing on Sirius XM if you have the app. And really listening to her and what she went through and why she never had children and what her feelings were on having children and how it was, the whole thing was really great.

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So, you know, a lot of people don’t think of Howard Stern as a great interview and I really didn’t for a lot of years either, but looking back now, you know, he really is.

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The last couple of years, the show’s changed. It’s not what it used to be. But the interviews that he does are great.

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And even though the antics, you know, maybe not what they used to be and funny like these, but he still puts on a good show and he still does great interviews at his age.

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And I think that’s something that a lot of people really forget is that he did, you know, he really does a great interview.

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And I remember as well him staying on the air during 9/11 and everything that happened during 9/11 and him staying on the air for that and kind of having people call into the show and trying to get information out to the people because, especially during his era.

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You don’t realize this too. During 9/11, and I know 9/11 can be a very touchy thing, so I do warn you if you have any trigger warnings or anything like that, please, you know, go ahead and stop listening if you have to.

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But, you know, one of the things during 9/11 was Stern had such a, was such a powerhouse in the radio at that time. They had run a lot of other radio stations off the air.

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And Stern almost had to stay on the air because he was at so many listeners, so many people, especially in that New York area, which is kind of the audience that made him and he catered to.

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He really had to stay on the air because, I mean, he had run a lot of other radio stations off the air because they wanted to compete with him.

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And he had no choice but to actually, you know, stay on the air and really kind of keep people informed of the news and kind of what was going on that day.

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I remember myself the day of 9/11, obviously I was at school, but I do remember when it happened Regis Philbin, obviously the legend himself, he was on with Kelly Ripa.

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And if you watch, Regis, such a veteran broadcaster, I mean, yes, he did a goofy morning show for, from, you know, from 9 to 10 or whatever.

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But when you really watch him, how he handled the whole 9/11 thing with the first plane and going back and forth to it during the broadcast and having to really stay calm and collected on the air.

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Then when the second plane hit, you know, him, just the way he handled it, such a veteran and such a, you know, a guy that really, you know, I mean, really was underrated, who could have been a great newscaster if he wanted to, but choose to get, choose to go kind of a different way in his broadcast career.

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Same thing with Stern, when you really listen to Stern on the air that day, I remember listening to him and him just totally, just so calm, like it was almost calm and cool, but the way Stern handled it of getting, just knowing, you know, so many people, newscasters were freaking out and scrambling and didn’t know what to say.

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And Stern was able to really, you know, you think of him as a goofy morning show that, you know, that always put these crazy antics.

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And then we see him in a real situation where he asked to be that guy, was able to really get the news out.

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His team kept giving him news information, kept the people updated and all that, and really did a job that he normally doesn’t do.

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Normally, you know, he’s not one to stay, you know, to deliver news like that, but he had really had no choice.

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And he did it, and you could just tell how great of a broadcaster he really was as well.

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A lot of people stepped up on that day, 9/11, but, you know, him and especially Regis, and I remember David Letterman going back on the air, like four or five days after 9/11, they were telling people to go back to work, go back to work, go back to work.

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Go back in the air. And Letterman had basically, I mean, all the flights were grounded for a while, so Letterman had people like Regis Philbin on and stuff like that.

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And especially Regis going on Letterman, you know, one of the things that a lot of people were afraid about was if people go on these talk shows the first night back, they’re going to get, you know,

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I don’t want to say nasty, but they’re going to get blowback from people for going on the air after 9/11 and stuff like that.

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And, I mean, Regis went on and he had so much popularity at the time with who wants to be a millionaire and his morning show and all that.

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And he was doing a radio show, I think, too, at that time. And he was able to go on there and kind of like if people were upset, he would take the blowback and respond back in a professional manner.

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I mean, he was really a veteran broadcaster for the time. And I think 9/11, even though it was late in his life and late in his career, really handled that like a true pro that I don’t think you would have ever seen if something like that didn’t happen.

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And while it’s not a good thing, I really think it really showed some of these people, while maybe they are just late night hosts or they are just morning radio people or morning TV people,

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how they really handled that situation. None of us had ever lived through anything like that before and you really didn’t know how to handle that.

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And those guys were so great and kind of riding you through it. And just, you know, it’s a horrible thing that hopefully will never happen again.

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But it was just such a, you know, I never want to know September 11th, but, you know, September 12th, the day after 9/11 was, you know, people were more united than will ever be.

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And it’s really hard now, especially with people that are much younger that didn’t live through 9/11.

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And I know you hate to be the old guy now, but I’m not really that old, pushing 40, but not that old. But you tell people how torn apart the country was and how 9/11 united us.

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I mean, you look at the way things are now and, you know, just the political spectrum alone and all the stuff going on in the world.

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It’s unbelievable to think how united we were at a time when the country was so far apart.

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And, you know, it’s just crazy to think about it now. It really is.

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But I just wanted to talk about that because there is a couple things. There is some other documentaries up on Netflix that I’ve watched.

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They do have the 9/11 documentary up there, which I remember most of it. They do have some footage.

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I don’t remember seeing as a kid, not kid, I was a teenager. I do remember, by the way, being 17 when it all happened.

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And I remember a lot of my friends and I were talking about enlisting in the service because of it.

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And I never did. You know, I wasn’t, you know, I never did personally. I just, I didn’t enlist in the service, but a lot of my buddies did.

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And a lot of my friends went pretty early for training because of the war going to break out.

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And, you know, what it did, a lot of my buddies were boots on the ground. I’m from the generation.

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You know, a lot of people, you know, a lot of guys talk about being drafted for World War II or Vietnam.

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I do remember, it wasn’t a draft, but I do remember a lot of my buddies being recruited for the Afghanistan war.

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Obviously, the Gulf War was way, way ahead of that. Those are, you know, a little bit, those guys are a little bit older than I am.

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And, you know, it’s unbelievable. Every, almost every generation has a war.

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And I do remember the Afghanistan one.

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And that’s one of the things that I do want to talk about is that the Republicans today, that if they can finally,

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whoever is House Speaker is supposed to do an investigation of how we pulled out of Iraq.

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They want to investigate the COVID thing.

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They want to investigate the, they want to investigate the administration, which I think is a lot of stuff’s a waste of money.

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I would like them to investigate the Afghanistan, how we pulled out of Afghanistan, just how messed up it was and get the real truth about that.

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That I actually would like to hear about. But they’re going to investigate the Hunter Biden laptop, which I think is not just a waste of time.

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I do think they’re going to investigate that whole BS with the Biden administration, which I don’t think they’re going to find much of anything.

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If I’m being honest with you, the COVID thing, they want to investigate.

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I don’t know. I just think there’s a lot of things that, I mean, you know, there’s a lot of people, COVID, a lot of people made money on COVID.

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And I’m like, well, guess what? A lot of people made money on the Afghanistan war.

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I mean, come on. Look at Halliburton and Dick Cheney and all that. Come on.

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I mean, I think it’s just, I think you’re just, nothing’s ever going to come of it. You’re just going to investigate it.

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And then nothing’s ever going to come of it, which is kind of what always happens with these sorts of things.

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So I really think it is just a massive waste of time. And I don’t understand.

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I understand why they’re doing it because they want to smear campaign for 2024. But again, nothing’s ever going to come of it.

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And it’s just going to be a big waste of time. So, but that is one of the things that the Republicans are saying that they want to do.

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They want to investigate. They want to investigate the pullout of Afghanistan. They want to investigate the Hunter Biden laptop, the COVID thing.

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They want to investigate the Biden administration and all that.

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I mean, just going to be a waste of time. Some of the Republicans saying they’re going to impeach Biden.

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I’m like, yeah, for what? I mean, really. I mean, all the, you know, all this over the, I don’t know, I think the Hunter Biden laptops,

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the way of them trying to have dirt to sling. I just, I don’t think, the problem is I don’t think Biden’s that, he’s not that eventful of a president.

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And I think that is a problem because it doesn’t give the Republicans a whole heck of a lot to work with for mudslinging.

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And I think that’s kind of why they want to do all this stuff, because they want to dig up dirt so they can throw in his face in the 2024 elections.

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I think that’s probably what most of this is. And I’m not a big fan of Biden’s, but sure, let’s waste taxpayer money to dig up dirt on somebody.

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You can try to win the elections, but you won’t win anyway in 2024. I just think it’s really ridiculous.

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And I just think it’s a tremendous waste of time. But on another note, I do want to say,

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one of the things I did want to bring up is on Netflix, there is a documentary right now that’s on, you’ve probably seen it a little bit over the break, was the volcano eruption.

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And an interesting story about the survivors of this volcano eruption.

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What it was, is a bunch of people had went on this, they had all signed up to go check out this volcano that was, you know, I guess a big tourist attraction in this area.

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And what I really think is sad about it is simply this, is, you know, these people, first of all, these people signed up to go check out this volcano,

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not knowing that the volcano was actually at a level two.

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It didn’t say anything in the release forms or the consent forms they had to sign that the volcano was at level two, very active at the time.

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And I think it’s really, you know, the volcanoes are supposed to be, oh my phone again. Sorry about that again, folks. I apologize.

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Like I said, I am driving and on the go, my phone is silent, but it keeps coming through the car.

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So, it was at level two, and this volcano, when volcanoes are at level two, that means they could hit level three and erupt.

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And I guess they weren’t told about this, that it could be a little bit dangerous because the volcano is more active than usual.

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And these people go up, go on this volcano and it erupts.

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Now, I know when you’re thinking erupting, we’re not talking like lava coming up and melting and people are running to get, but what happened was the volcano erupted.

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And since it had, obviously, you know, when volcanoes erupt, they shoot steam up and all this steam cloud and this ash cloud flew by these people and basically burned, I mean, burned all these people’s skin and all, I mean, people were just, I mean, left.

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Either they died or, you know, the ones that were left alive were severely injured.

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And these people, you know, obviously that was most of the story.

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And, you know, people don’t realize just, you know, when we watch these movies on television, you know, you see the volcano erupting, you think the lava, all this kind of stuff, but the steam cloud and all that, and the heat and all that is really what, you know, I mean, really did so much damage.

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I mean, this thing didn’t even really have any lava or magma.

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It was just the storm cloud that caused the ash cloud.

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I mean, just in the steam cloud, you know, that really, you know, really wounded these people.

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And then what’s even more upsetting about this whole situation is you have people that were further away that were hurt but not hurt as bad.

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Then you have people that are very, very close that were basically, you know, all killed except for, I think, a handful of people that survived, but they had like burns over the majority of their body.

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And then, you know, what’s even worse is, you know, you have this company that flies their helicopters back and forth.

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And, you know, the one company had a boat that they brought people back on the boat or whatever, which was great.

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And, you know, you have people there, the first aid train trying to help people, but not everybody got hurt.

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I would say probably the majority of people got hurt, but some people didn’t get hurt or they didn’t get hurt that bad that they were, you know.

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And you had people left behind that were survivors that couldn’t get off the island.

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And these poor people that are left behind have no way to get off the island and not our government, I forget the country it was in, but their government decided it’s not safe to send people to get these people.

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So these people are alive and waiting to die on the island and lucky enough these couple of good Samaritan helicopter pilots went there, landed, and were able to get these people off the island and get them onto these helicopters and airlift them out of there.

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Unfortunately, they had to leave the dead behind. I think eventually the government would go in after the key was interrupting and get what was left of the bodies.

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But, you know, unfortunately you can’t save the dead, but you can save the living.

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And these men went there and they were able to get a handful of people, you know, that were left, that were alive, that didn’t get off the island, and were able to airlift them right to the hospital.

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And the gentleman, and I distinctly remember this from the documentary, the guy said, “Well, listen, we’re going to fly these people right to the hospital, which is the next town over.”

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And they’re like, “No, no, no, land here and we’ll have to triage them.”

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And he’s like, “No, no, no, you let these people down once already by basically leaving them behind. We’re not trusting you to let them down again.

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We’re flying them directly to the hospital for helipads.” And that’s what they did. And these guys, I mean, they truly were amazing.

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We’re good Samaritans. I believe they saved like eight or nine lives, you know, and that’s just, thank God for people like that who are willing to, you know, willing to kind of step up when the government’s not and say,

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“Hey, we’re not leaving people behind. We can airlift these people off. We’re here. We have heli- we’re overhead. We can land and get these people.”

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And, you know, these people were just, you know, I felt really, really bad for them. And, you know, lucky enough, these good Samaritans were able to help these people.

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I think a lot of people did die, unfortunately. Burns like that are very serious. You don’t actually die- I mean, you can die from the burn, but the majority of the time you don’t die from the burn.

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You die from the infection is what they always say. And, you know, third-degree boiler burns are just unbelievably bad.

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And then, you know, these poor people, you know, that, you know, that did survive now, they’ve got all, you know, all the scar tissue and, you know, their skin’s burned.

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A couple of guys, I know they were saying- one guy was saying that the- the fingers- his hands don’t work that well anymore because of all the damage that was done because he was covering his face.

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And they have like one surgery a month now just to try to relieve the- relieve the issues they have with the skin and how they’re- they try to do, you know, distance and the other thing.

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But, you know, it’s hard for them because their skin doesn’t stretch like it’s supposed to because of all the burns and how hard they have getting around.

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And, I mean, it really is a- really just a shame. And, you know, one of the things they had to do- you know, if they had been warned that the volcano was at level two, they might not have gone.

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And, you know, I feel bad for people like that, you know, especially a young couple that were on the show, they were on their honeymoon and, you know, it’s just a shame that, you know, that happens on your honeymoon.

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You’re going to remember that forever now. And, of course, it’s going to always taint your, you know, your wedding anniversary.

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You’re always going to think about that. But that’s, you know, I hate to say the least of their worries with these wounds and these injuries they have.

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But, you know, they have like- each one of them has like one surgery a month now to try to get more use out of it.

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And there’s always so much that you can do with injuries like that, you know.

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And some, you know, it’s really just a shame. And the one kid- one guy- one kid that survived, he was a young kid and he lost, you know, his whole family.

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The only people that survived was him. They were close to the volcano and when it erupted, he survived and that was it.

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His fistless family died and he managed to make it down the mountain enough to be able to get saved.

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I mean, good for him. But it’s got to be tough for him now, you know, losing your whole family, you know.

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And this thing, you think you’re going to enjoy something and here all of a sudden you end up coming back, you know, all by yourself.

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And it’s got to be just heart wrenching, tough and unfortunately, you know, and that’s an example of-

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The reason why I’m bringing this up to talk about it is, you know, one, it’s a survival situation obviously.

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But two, you can prep as much as you want. Sometimes, fortunately, you’re just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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And I hate to say that but, you know, that really is the unfortunate truth. I mean, you can be prepped as all as you want.

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But at the end of the day, you’re sometimes just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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And it’s a shame, it’s sad, it happens but, you know, sometimes you can be prepared for as many situations as you want.

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You know, you’re not going to- Who knew that the volcano, you can’t expect the unexpected sometimes.

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And that’s why we do the best we can to prep but sometimes you can’t prep for everything and you can’t be prepared for everything.

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Especially in a situation where you’re out and about like on a vacation, you might not be prepared for something like that to happen.

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You know, it’s really pretty crazy. And you feel bad for the people that went there to have a good time and to learn something and to see something they may never see again and that’s what happened.

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So it’s really a shame, it’s sad and it is a good series though. I watched it- I’m not going to say it’s a good movie.

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It’s only about 86 minutes I think. It wasn’t even a full hour and a half.

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But it was really- watching it was really just eye opening to me only because of the consent forms and the things that these people signed that they weren’t really told how bad the situation was.

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Basically this travel company makes money doing tours and you know, “Hey, we’re not going to tell you everything because we want you to go on the tour.”

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And you know, you release them a little liability so if you get hurt now, who do you sue for your medical bills that are going to be going on for forever, you know?

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And there were talks about that too that who’s going to pay for all these surgeries and who’s going to pay for all this stuff we’re having.

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And if we were told about this we wouldn’t have gone and we were signed those release forms so we really can’t sue now.

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And I was like, “Oh my gosh.” This was just like reading this- the last maybe 10-15 minutes we were talking about all the legal genre and jargon and then just these people, what they endured and what they’re going to continue to endure.

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Years later, it’s not fair that they can’t get any kind of compensation for their medical bills because they signed waivers.

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And it really is just really sad that these people weren’t- I hate to say this but when you go to stuff like this, and it’s nobody’s fault, if you want to do something you just sign the waiver and you don’t think about it.

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But it really opened my eyes personally to when you do stuff like this and you get hurt, who pays for it?

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If something happens to you, who’s going to pay for it? You signed that they’re free of liability. You’re doing this knowing that you could get hurt and now you do get hurt and now it’s all on you.

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And it really just- the whole situation of just watching that last part was really upsetting and depressing to me because, maybe as somebody who’s a prepper and all that kind of stuff, when you think about it you sign the waiver to do this but you’re signing a waiver more than that.

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And are you prepared that if something happens to you, are you prepared financially, emotionally, physically?

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And I’m not taking it away from them, it’s a horrible event but, you know, I really ask as a prepper or before you sign the release forms, maybe you need to take a second and just say, well what would happen to me if something happens?

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And I know it’s not, this is a big event but even just small events. The other day a buddy of mine was just telling me that he got hurt hunting the other day. He went out hunting, he fell, he broke his ankle and now he’s out of work for six weeks.

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Well he’s not going to get any income now for six weeks because he fell and he hurt his leg. And I’m not, while it’s not nearly as big of an event as something like this kind of event was, look at this, this is a buddy of mine who goes out to go out in the woods, falls and gets hurt and now he’s out six weeks of money.

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You know, same thing the other day, a friend of mine, you know, she’s out of work for a couple months because she broke ice skating with her kids and broke her leg and well she’s the breadwinner now and, you know, and they’re going to get partial, you know, she’s going to get, you know, I think she’ll get paid for like, I think the whole time because only like 70% of what they normally get or 60% really.

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And that’s something you got to, and I hate to say that, but we shouldn’t live our lives to it, but that’s something you have to think of is, well, if I get on this ice skating and I get hurt, what’s going to happen if we, you know, if I get hurt? Who’s going to, who’s going to bring money into the house?

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You know, if I go hunting today and I get hurt, you know, what’s going to happen to my income? And I’d hate to say it, but that’s unfortunately the world we’re living in right now and, you know, these events can happen. Maybe, unfortunately, this is a large scale and I feel bad for other people.

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It’s a bigger scale, but even on a smaller scale, you can think about stuff like, oh crap, if I fall and get hurt, what’s going to happen to me? What’s happened to my kids? Who’s going to bring food? What’s going to, you know, I mean, I know it’s, I know it’s, it’s little and minor, but, you know, but those little minor issues, the little minor things you think of, and I know everybody says you can’t live life afraid and, but maybe as preppers, you know, we need to think, okay,

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I am going to go out to the hunting today. You know, maybe, you know, if, and I know they’re called accidents for a reason, but, you know, if I do get hurt, what would happen? You know what I mean? Or maybe, or, you know, maybe I should, maybe I should start thinking of putting money away.

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So in case I get hurt, I have some cushion or some next day, you know what I mean? I know that’s a tough thing to do. Or maybe, maybe if you can’t put money, just say, okay, maybe to think about our future, maybe we should cut back on some of our bills if we can, you know, to try to start thinking about saving some money or at least putting maybe $20 a week away.

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You know, it doesn’t sound like much, but $20 a week times that by four to $8 a month, that’s, you know, that times that by 12, that’s, you know, almost, you know, that’s almost, you know, $8, $900 a year you’re putting away and it doesn’t sound like much, but, but boy, oh boy, you get hurt and you don’t have any money or some reason you can’t work for a couple of weeks and, you know, you have that little extra money.

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Yeah, that can be different from paying a bill or not. So I’m actually going to be getting to an area here. So I want to thank everybody for listening and we will talk to you on the next episode. Thank you very much.